We were obviously going back and forth tryin to just figure out our own legacy riff, ya know what I mean. Like everybody has that one riff when you start playin it, like the crowds go crazy. 'Like oh my god, it's this song.' And I've tried that for the past two albums. Like that's like my third album, 'Bloom.' I was tryin for that, I got close but, this one as soon as you, like my, we would go back and forth.